Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 22:59:55 -0500 From: alerts@gatekeeper.nra.org (NRA Alerts) To: firearms-alert@shell.portal.com Subject: INFO: Kansas City Gun Search and Seizure 'experiment' December 1, 1994 Until a comprehensive report on the Kansas City "experiment" has been examined, it is difficult to draw any conclusions based upon the media articles which have been published recently. Following, though, is the initial response to this gun-seizure "experiment" from gun-rights scholar Paul Blackman: Since the experiment was increasing the number of police patrols in one police beat and comparing gun-related crime there to a control beat with no increased police patrolling, it is possible that the impact was the increased police patrolling, not what the extra police were doing while patrolling. Second, the experiment involves a deliberate effort to violate the Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable searches and seizures by having police all but invent excuses to stop and question people and their vehicles and then pretend they need to search the person/car in order to protect the life of the officer, when the actual purpose of the stop was to justify the search. This deliberately twists the Terry v. Ohio stop-and-frisk decision on its head, and demonstrates the hostility of HCI types to the Bill of Rights as a whole -- or to any part of it which interferes with violations of the Second Amendment. We would hope the ACLU would denounce the police-state techniques being funded by the Department of Justice, and hope the next Congress will look into it. We hope that HCI would show some regard for civil liberties by saying the Fourth Amendment shouldn't be violated just to seize guns. -- This information is presented as a service to the Internet community by the NRA/ILA. Many files are available via anonymous ftp from ftp.nra.org and via WWW at http://www.nra.org Be sure to subscribe to rkba-alert by sending: subscribe rkba-alert Your Full Name as the body of a message to rkba-alert-request@NRA.org Information can also be obtained by connecting to the NRA-ILA GUN-TALK BBS at (703) 934-2121.